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1 year 8 months ago #5112 by Ramon Llupart
Ramon Llupart replied the topic: General rules and series registration
I prefer traditional speed limit in the pits, without it I'm sure it will be big crashes in the pitlane. :pinch:

I'm more on 60 min races, but another possibility is two 30 races, the second one with reverse grid. :laugh:

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1 year 8 months ago - 1 year 8 months ago #5113 by Aitor Lopez
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Ramon Llupart wrote: I prefer traditional speed limit in the pits, without it I'm sure it will be big crashes in the pitlane. :pinch:

I'm more on 60 min races, but another possibility is two 30 races, the second one with reverse grid. :laugh:



I am not a fan of two race event. You win one race and you can't drink champagne because you have next race in 10 minutes. Then you have a bad second race and you don't have anymore desire to drink champagne.

35-45 mins without mandatory pit stop or 60 mins race with required pit stop. I prefer only pit stops in endurance races or modern racing. Refuel was not safe in 70's-80's.

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1 year 8 months ago #5114 by László Csapó
László Csapó replied the topic: General rules and series registration

Admin wrote: At the moment I see the rules as follows:

1. weight penalty in values as I proposed (I explained why before)

2. race length 45 minutes - I didn't check unblocked setup fuel consumption, when gears can be adjusted to the track's longest straight and slowest corner. I think 45 minutes is optimal race length which requires fuel management and sensible driving style - if you will be aggressive you will be faster but it will be pitstop required. If not, the car will run the race distance without the pitstop, but slightly slower. Just wondering.

3. Pitlane speed during the race shown in track gdb file tells about 80 kph. It is enough to drive through the pitlane. I must check it.



I agree with this format, but for me, the "original" simracers rules are the most desirable.

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1 year 8 months ago - 1 year 8 months ago #5115 by Antonio Tavares
Antonio Tavares replied the topic: General rules and series registration

Michal wrote: Two 30 min races, then a cigarette break and a piss. Pitline only to fix. In the second race the fastest five gets a 100kg penalty. Open setup. Speed limit in pit.


I like this idea.

But my perspective might not be the same other drivers have. I'm not sure to be able to attend every race, and I don't care much about points earned and trophy or championship standings. For the moment I just want to have a good time in the races I attend - I don't care what place I finish, my only objectives are to try to have clean fights if possible, and if there aren't other drivers in my pace that I can fight with, then I try to concentrate on perfecting lines and driving as best as I can.

Anyway, I really like the idea of 2 x 30min stints with weight penalties in the second. Perhaps with grid positions in reverse order? Just a thought. Second race, second opportunity.

And I agree with Aitor about the pit lane speed limits. If there are mandatory pit-stops, then the speed limits should guarantee the safety of drivers. They are the same for all, so nobody will have any prejudice if these limits are around 80km/h. It's just a question of practicing 3 or 4 pit entries during practice sessions

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1 year 8 months ago #5116 by Admin
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Race speed limit at Manfeild is 80 kph. It's ok.

Two 30 minute races event is ok, but it's an additional work to admin. After 1st race I must remember the final positions and do reverse grid editing it in the second warmup (before 2nd race). It's possible and we did it before in BMW E90 series. We used reverse grid only to Top10 drivers in Race 1. We can consider it in the future.

The only minor factor I see in 2x30 format is some drivers go out after Race 1. Of course, with nice and devoted community my doubts are not necessary perhaps.

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1 year 8 months ago - 1 year 8 months ago #5117 by Murat Ozsarac
Murat Ozsarac replied the topic: General rules and series registration
Two race events is what we also did in the past in our outside league. A shorter Race2 might be worth considering but for now just for fun (changing race length/duration is also available with admin commands while we're all in the server after Race1, no need to restart the server). And editting grid is, again, possible with running a batch file, works only in warmup session. But yes Marek, we would still need to remember who finished where and hit Alt+Tab to modify the file. Would not need to restart rFactor for the batch to run properly.

Actually you don't quite need to remember the result of Race1. You can grab a screenshot right after the completion of Race1 and then go back to desktop, open the batch and the jpg to modify the batch file to editgrid. Driver names will already be written in the file beforehand, all you'll do is type their grid position and save the file.

Edit: I totally agree that only a certain number of drivers should be reversed, 10 is a good number. Reversing the full grid will more likely result with chaotic starts. I am with you in this about a backmarker being a backmarker :)
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1 year 8 months ago #5118 by Steve Settanta
Steve Settanta replied the topic: General rules and series registration
I would avoid the reversed grid in the second race.
I don't want to have a double worry: avoid to ruin my race and, in addition, avoid to ruin the race of fastest drivers that starts behind me. :P

Keep calm and wait the chequered flag...

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1 year 8 months ago #5121 by Admin
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Steve, reversing within Top10 in the second run is normally used in the real series too. But don't worry - we race one 45 minutes event.

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1 year 8 months ago - 1 year 8 months ago #5122 by Steve Settanta
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You know always how to keep me quiet.. :P

Keep calm and wait the chequered flag...
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1 year 8 months ago #5126 by Bruno Gomes
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