Weight penalty discussion

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1 year 2 weeks ago #5076 by Murat Ozsarac
Murat Ozsarac replied the topic: Weight penalty discussion
Liveracers showing there is noone in it. Odd

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1 year 2 weeks ago - 1 year 2 weeks ago #5102 by Murat Ozsarac
Murat Ozsarac replied the topic: Weight penalty discussion
In my opinion, applying weight to more than 6 top finishers will make more sense. From what we saw at the last weekend's participation (15 drivers), we will have pretty good grid size in this trophy. So I suggest apply penalty to at least top10 finishers. Because, in this current format we are mixing the front and mid-pack drivers. Backmarkers will not be affected under this circumstances. Mixing up the scored points and applying the weights multiplied with a coefficient might be useful for leveling the paces of the whole grid. An example below could be easier to explain. Might as well consider increasing max weight penalty a bit more.

1st- 25x3 = 75kg
2nd- 18x3 = 54kg
3rd- 15x3 = 45kg
4th- 12x3 = 36kg
5th- 10x3 = 30kg
6th- 8x3 = 24kg
7th- 6x3 = 18kg
8th- 4x3 = 12kg
9th- 2x3 = 6kg
10th- 1x3 = 3kg

11th- 1x(-3) = -3kg
12th- 2x(-3) = -6kg
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This is just an example. Values are of course subject to change.
Last Edit: 1 year 2 weeks ago by Murat Ozsarac.

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1 year 2 weeks ago - 1 year 2 weeks ago #5103 by Admin
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In my opinion, applying weight to more than 6 top finishers will make more sense.

Maybe, but we have ony 3 events and approx. 15 drivers per race. Comparing to proposed values:

P1 +60 kg
P2 +50 kg
P3 +40 kg
P4 +30 kg
P5 +20 kg
P6 +10 kg
P7 0 kg
P8 -10 kg
P9 -20 kg
P10 -30 kg
P11 -40 kg
P12 -50 kg
P13 and P(x) -60 kg
max weight penalty = 100 kg

... I think we must use immediately weight increase just after 1st event, as follows:

P1 +100 kg
P2 +80 kg
P3 +60 kg
P4 +40 kg
P5 +20 kg
P6 +10 kg
P7 0 kg
P8 -10 kg
P9 -20 kg
P10 -40 kg
P11 -60 kg
P12 -80 kg
P13 and P(x) -100 kg
max weight penalty = 100 kg

Why do only 1-6 finishers have extra weight? Just because with more than 6 drivers penalised we will have almost whole grid with permanent extra weight on board. For me, backmarkers are backmarkers, up to 6 drivers affected the mid grid has bigger chance to beat Mikko. :laugh:
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1 year 2 weeks ago #5104 by Murat Ozsarac
Murat Ozsarac replied the topic: Weight penalty discussion

Admin wrote: Why do only 1-6 finishers have extra weight? Just because with more than 6 drivers penalised we will have almost whole grid with permanent extra weight on board.


What is wrong with whole grid carrying permanent extra weight? The underdogs will still be competitive when carrying small amount of weights and more importantly their own races will be closer coz they will be levelled between themselves.

Admin wrote: For me, backmarkers are backmarkers, up to 6 drivers affected the mid grid has bigger chance to beat Mikko. :laugh:


I can safely say the winner of the championship in a long series will still be the best driver coz the rule is not pointing finger to any specific person. It applies the same for all. All we try to do is add more on track action (I thought it would be for the whole grid, not only for front).

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1 year 2 weeks ago - 1 year 2 weeks ago #5105 by Admin
Admin replied the topic: Weight penalty discussion
It's a matter of weight difference:

Your example from 1st to 6th = 51 kg

Mine: 90 kg

Better to have bigger weight difference, especially in 3-races-trophy.
Last Edit: 1 year 2 weeks ago by Admin.

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1 year 2 weeks ago #5106 by Steve Settanta
Steve Settanta replied the topic: Weight penalty discussion

For me, backmarkers are backmarkers, up to 6 drivers affected the mid grid has bigger chance to beat Mikko. :laugh:


I think that, in my case, the only way to beat Mikko is using sleeping pills!!! :laugh:

Ehmmm... sleeping pills are allowed in reglement!?!?! :whistle:

Keep calm and wait the chequered flag...

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1 year 2 weeks ago #5107 by Murat Ozsarac
Murat Ozsarac replied the topic: Weight penalty discussion
I see your point Marek tho I gave all those values just as a reference. Let's learn how things will go in this trophy then, might reconsider for the big championship.

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