Question about Falcons

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2 years 3 months ago #4283 by Admin
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First, I would say 1st HGT Season was made as fun series to learn the mod. Cars were selected after some tests with default setups on different tracks. That's why I added Ford Falcon as the natural competitor from reality to Jags, Cortinas, Abarths and Minis. Unfortunately, life showed its huge advantage over the rest of cars, especially on fast tracks.

Second, if it would be the will to change some rules, I propose to force Falcon drivers to make one "drive through" during the race, in any moment.

I know Mikko won Brands Hatch driving Abarth over Juan Manuel in Falcon by 9 s., but Juan had over 40 s. advantage over 3rd driver (Paul in Abarth). Mikko is from outer space, he is approx. 1 s. faster than anybody at the moment. At Goodwood Toni in Falcon overlapped all other drivers (even Mikko).

Please write your thoughts about it. Especially I want to know the opinion from Falcon drivers (Juan Manuel, Toni, Don and Hakan).

In-season change can be made only with their agreement.

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2 years 3 months ago #4284 by Toni Talvitie
Toni Talvitie replied the topic: Question about Falcons
I wouldnt mind swap car if could choose what i want
to get to really race vs others.
Falcon is so much fun to drive but it does get
abit boring atm.


Im also ok with drive through if car swap isnt
possible.

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2 years 3 months ago #4285 by Admin
Admin replied the topic: Question about Falcons
Car swap not possible. We drive what we selected.

Drive through would be ok, even the Cadwell can be hard for Falcons anyway, they gain at Croft and Snetterton.

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2 years 3 months ago #4286 by Steve Settanta
Steve Settanta replied the topic: Question about Falcons
A suggestion could be a different "ratio" of points earned with the Falcon: for example 0.80 instead of 1.
So if a Falcon driver scored 10 points on the track, on the final ranking he takes home 8 points.
It's just a "point of view" that I shared...I have enough problem to solve with my wheel and the Jag setup to stick the nose in the high part of the ranking. :P

Keep calm and wait the chequered flag...

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2 years 3 months ago #4287 by Mikko Nieminen
Mikko Nieminen replied the topic: Question about Falcons
My opinion about advantage of falcon is that there is not so big advantage.
Falcon wont be anywhere near as competetive on other tracks as it were in goodwood.
At croft it was second faster than fiat, and i think cortina will be in same area.
No actions needed is my state.

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2 years 3 months ago #4288 by Admin
Admin replied the topic: Question about Falcons
Steve:
I thought about point ratio. I think drive through is better option because it gives Falcon opportunity to race and overtake, not being 1st and points substracted.

Mikko:
You are the most valuable person in this thread acoording to your laptimes, but you mentioned Brands rather than Croft. Did you test Croft too?

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2 years 3 months ago #4289 by Mikko Nieminen
Mikko Nieminen replied the topic: Question about Falcons
Did little testing in Croft just to see the differences.
I believe gaps will eaven out. If it seems that falcons are still way faster that others, how would be if some faster track would change to slower one?

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2 years 3 months ago #4290 by Admin
Admin replied the topic: Question about Falcons
Yes, maybe it's right direction. We could change Snetterton and Croft to slower curvy tracks, but Jaguars will suffer comparing to Minis and Abarths. I still personally think that drive through is the best option.

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2 years 3 months ago #4291 by McCoy
McCoy replied the topic: Question about Falcons
I really dont have much of an opinion, not knowing enough about any of it yet. I practiced Goodwood for the entire time off (no other tracks/cars). So its the only reason I was able to keep third until my obviously lack of knowledge and skill caused me to pit for tires :blush: . And truthfully I was only getting better/consistent laptimes once I got in and seen what line the other Falcon drivers were using.
Im not sure theres going to be a huge advantage at Croft. Theres at least two corners that are almost a dead stop for me there. But, again, I just started this so I really dont know.
Im fine with whatever the other three Falcon drivers decide.

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2 years 3 months ago #4292 by Admin
Admin replied the topic: Question about Falcons
The main problem is: fast tracks are for Jaguars against Abarths, Minis and Cortinas. If we change fast tracks to slower curvy for these smaller cars - not only Falcons will suffer. Jags will suffer more. For me the best option is drive through for Falcons on dedicated fast tracks or all tracks, even slower.

Any ideas more?

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