Round 3 - PAUL RICARD '88

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1 year 11 months ago - 1 year 11 months ago #5700 by Paul Anstey
Paul Anstey replied the topic: Round 3 - PAUL RICARD '88
Almost didn't race today. I wasn't feeling great but i knew in order to remain a championship contender I have to score points in every round. So only just joined the server the moment it went to qualy.

Because I didn't get in any pre-qualy practice I hadn't got into a rhythm so my first couple of laps were in the 1:40's. Tried not to panic and managed to put in a time good enough for 2nd until Alan put in a better lap so ended up with a good 3rd position.

Realised whilst on the grid I hadn't done any fueling calculations so went back to the pits and put in another 10L. Turned out to be more than enough. This had the added benefit of increasing my engine health from 84% to 99%. So I could tear a strip off the engine at the start. That part of the start went to plan. At this point I started daydreaming and only came out of it with the thought 'Oh there's my braking point. Mmmm what to do? what to go?. Arghhhh!!!!'. Luckily there's a run off road so I had space to turn around, even so I nearly span it into the wall. By the time I was back on the track I was nearly or at the back of the field.

The fight back began. With others flinging themselves off the track I got on the back of Marek in 7th or 8th place. Thought this was going to be hard but I past him without him putting up any resistance. I'm guessing he was looking after his engine. Jorge put up more of a fight and it took a few laps to get past. Now in 5th I cam up behind Ales and Aitor. I manage to take a tight line through the corners after the main straight. A lap or so later tried the same on Aitor but our cars collided and Aitor left the track. Not sure if I was to blame I allowed Ales past and waited until Aitor past through. I could only give hime back 4th place not the 3rd place he had on our collision. Sorry Aitor. Think it was a 50:50 race incident but I like to be fair.

So back down to 5th. A few laps later got past Aitor, cleanly this time. Ales had now got a 4.5 second lead over me. Over the next 5 or 6 laps I closed th gap by a couple of seconds but thought I'd run out of time to get close enough to him to try a pass. Back markers however meant I closed in enough. Tried to do the same pass I'd done successfully on him before but he seemed wise to this and took the tight line himself. At some point we touched each other and I lost a second or so recovering. Now there was no time to launch another attempt. The only question for the last couple of laps was whether we could catch and pass Allan. I noticed he had slowed dramatically over the last few laps so either he had low fuel or low engine health. Well the answer to that came a few feet from the line when Alan's engine blew. He coasted over the line to take 2nd, Ales 3rd, and me a well fought for 4th.

Very happy to take 4th here especially after the late decision to race and my poor start.

Well done Matheus back to winning ways :)
Well done Alan. A podium on your first race with us :)
Well done to Ales for a well defended 3rd place. :)

Well done to everyone who took on these tough to control cars. :)

See you all next time in the happiest car that ever been produced :).
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1 year 11 months ago #5701 by Allan Ramsbottom
Allan Ramsbottom replied the topic: Round 3 - PAUL RICARD '88
Do you guys have an App that shows engine health,something i dont possess,thanx..

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1 year 11 months ago - 1 year 11 months ago #5702 by Paul Anstey
Paul Anstey replied the topic: Round 3 - PAUL RICARD '88

Allan Ramsbottom wrote: Do you guys have an App that shows engine health,something i dont possess,thanx..


Yes there are 2 popular plugins:

You can get XD from here www.vitumo.de/ website.

You can get GID from here www.nogripracing.com/details.php?filenr=38183

You can run one or the other. Sometimes they can be a pig to get working.
There are versions for AMS, GSCE, and rF2

Each one has it's pro's and cons.

I use XD because I could never get the Engine Health working properly with the GID. Others however have got it working. GID gives better fuel calculations in terms of time left on current fuel which I found very useful in long endurance racing.
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1 year 11 months ago - 1 year 11 months ago #5703 by Marek Archipow [Fireball]
Marek Archipow [Fireball] replied the topic: Round 3 - PAUL RICARD '88
Allan, try rfdynhud plugin. Works ok for me. I had problems with engine health several times and it helped a lot. On Rouen with DRM I had only 6% engine efficiency after L1T1 and I finished the race as 4th.

Now the race summary:
Q: 8
R: 6

Qual:
Despite of having free track during 10 minutes I couldn't reach "under 1:34" pace what surprised me. Ended with 1:34.7 was major failure comparing with my PB 1:33.3.

Race:
My race was ended in the first second after green lights came. All was checked except 1st gear - I forgot to put it on, so as I released the clutch I overrevved with neutral what caused engine burn down to 30%. Nice! Then I fought like hell to gain my position and I overtook some drivers (there was a little accident on L1T1 probably). I was just before Paul and I decided, as Paul stated, to save engine than to defend hard my race position. I let Paul go and I was going to keep his rear bumper just before my nose. It was possible only for a short time, because my engine went down again while crazy downshifting to only 17% on lap 4.

What happened next? I did some major mistakes and fought with Jorge, finally leaving him behind. I was so close to Aitor in the end of the race but it was impossible to catch him with almost zero engine. I finished as 6th with 0% (zero) engine indeed.

First, I realised it wasn't my day comparing to Saturday's "under 1:34" laptimes reached easily. Second, I checked my files again and it was clear that I put wrong setup just before the qual. Damn! Anyway 6th place wasn't so bad in that case.

Next step Sprites. Pure racing only with skill use.
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1 year 11 months ago #5704 by Ales Sirny
Ales Sirny replied the topic: Round 3 - PAUL RICARD '88
After disappointed pace in Brno I felt really good with four gear Ford GT and have nice battle with Paul and Aitor. When they collide, I run away and have a couple seconds gap. I keep my times under 1:34, but when I reached backmarkers, it slowed me down and Paul was behind me, so I had to defense my position, because I knew Paul was a bit faster then me. But I holded third position and finished on the podium for the first time. Really enjoyable race.

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1 year 11 months ago #5705 by Admin
Admin replied the topic: Round 3 - PAUL RICARD '88
Grats Ales for the first podium at Simracers ever! Good job.

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1 year 11 months ago #5706 by Jorge Herrera
Jorge Herrera replied the topic: Round 3 - PAUL RICARD '88
Good race for me, great fights, intense racing... I didn't get the final position I wanted, but I enjoied a lot. :laugh:

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1 year 11 months ago #5707 by Antonio Tavares
Antonio Tavares replied the topic: Round 3 - PAUL RICARD '88

Allan Ramsbottom wrote: Great racing guys planning on doing a lot more with you guys, till next race,if any1 wants any help with set-ups..............TOUGH...lol, only joking,i will gladly try and help out..:)


Thxs for the offer, Allan. Despite never having used an offered setup before, because I always end up changing stuff here and there, I must admit that this time having your setup for this race would have been a great help.
I didn't have time to practice during the week, and despite knowing the track from past races (if I'm not mistaken we used the F1's 79 here last trophy for one of the races), it was never one of those where I quickly feel confortable. So, driving the GT40 for the first time 45 minutes before the race wasn't an easy job, and I focused mainly in lines and braking points leaving the setup more or less close to default. Steering lock, gearbox and brake balance roughly adjusted, a little more camber and hope for the best was all I had time for.

After the race I was still at the server when you uploaded your setup, which I tried today. It's really quite good, as it took me just a couple of laps to shave around 3 seconds to my regular 38's in race. After a while I was doing regular 36's and got a few 35 amongst them.
So, if you don't mind, I'm curious about 2 things: your steering angle on your wheel (I used 800º on mine and 28º of steering lock in setup), but mostly your ride height choices. I know from experience that soft and low doesn't work well here, the front of the GT40 bottoms up easily on elevation changes making the car very unstable and hard to catch from heavy understeer.
Looking at your ride height settings, I was under the impression that they were too precise to have been chosen by "guessing". Are you perhaps using Motec to analyze your ride height over the course of a lap and tune it accordingly?

“Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting.”

(Steve McQueen)

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1 year 11 months ago #5708 by Allan Ramsbottom
Allan Ramsbottom replied the topic: Round 3 - PAUL RICARD '88
Antonio,nah i dont use Motech,i use a G25 with 720deg angle,i have modded G27 pedals which are awesome,its all about testing m8,i,ve been racing this mod since it first came out,i save all my race car settings,still tweak them to every track still,rear wheel drive cars handle so much different to front wheel drive cars,thats the big difference,as is set-up,rear wheel will push u round,front wheel will pull u round corners..Another good tip is,drive the car as standard for at least 15 laps,get the feel,then you will notice by your own driving style how the car reacts,then start making small adjustments,its amazing what just 1 click can do,especially on bump and rebound,the trick is to have as much rubber on the track as possible especially when cornering,this comes with the right, Toe,Camber,Tire Pressure,Suspension and Ride Height..A good example are the big V8 American Muscle Cars,big heavy wallowy thing,all grunt and power but take 900 yards to slow down lol.For me,stiffen the hell out of it,try and get the least body roll out of it,More negitive camber,max anti roll bar as poss,and brake bias more to front.If i,ve bored you sorry...Lol.

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1 year 11 months ago - 1 year 11 months ago #5709 by Admin
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Allan Ramsbottom wrote: ... the trick is to have as much rubber on the track as possible especially when cornering...Lol.


Do you suggest rubber on track is modelled so in rFactor 1, that it affects laptimes? I thought it came frome rFactor 2.

Regarding to setup making - I'm not so good with it. I play this mod from it was released too, even earlier, because I think physics was better in its predecessor Historic GT 1.01 (cars drove more naturally and easier, had more transversal grip). I try to make it intuitively, usually putting more overall oversteer and negative camber. Bump and rebound is a mystery for me. I'm usually faster with my own setups but some setups sometimes suit me. I really miss my G25 which is broken since 3 years and I don't have a mood to repair it (digital plate is broken, serious damage). I was faster with G25 approx. 0,5 up to 1 s. pro lap depending on track comparing with DFGT which I already use. So, life is life.
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