Round 5 - PUTNAM PARK

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6 months 3 weeks ago #5792 by Paul Anstey
Paul Anstey replied the topic: Round 5 - PUTNAM PARK
@Admin: Any chance of updating the current championship standings. Cheers :)

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6 months 2 weeks ago #5793 by Admin
Admin replied the topic: Round 5 - PUTNAM PARK
Yes, I'm just after big PC crash and reinstalling everything... and after "juicy" wedding of course. ;)

Tonight it should be done.

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6 months 2 weeks ago #5795 by Antonio Tavares
Antonio Tavares replied the topic: Round 5 - PUTNAM PARK

Paul Anstey wrote: As requested from Antonio here's my replay and setup from Putnam. I did a 1:27.6 fastest lap but I found this difficult to achieve and my average is more like 1:28.2


Thanks Paul, it as a precious help, especially the replay since my actual setup uses different values. But it helped in the beginning because it confirmed that hard settings that limit at maximum the body roll work well here.
The replay helped me to choose better lines, achieving higher cornering speeds and shave 2 seconomic since I began practicing.

I'm curious to see who will choose the Jaguar, and as pointed by Mathew yesterday on the chat, if the front tire wear on the Mini''s will allow some good fights from mid-race on.

“Racing is life. Anything before or after is just waiting.”

(Steve McQueen)
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6 months 2 weeks ago #5796 by Ramon Llupart
Ramon Llupart replied the topic: Round 5 - PUTNAM PARK

Antonio Tavares wrote: Great news, I'll shut down the other and keep it on standby in case it will be needed for some reason in the future.

rFactor 2 alonside is great also, but I'm not too sure I'll be able to run it on my PC with the settings I'd like (not maximum visuals, but something around a little over medium, enoughh to have decent graphics combined with a safe FPS rate on any track.), that's why I ask:
Have you guys considered Automobilista? I have both rFactor 2 and Automobilista on Steam, and Automobilista is close to rFactor 2 in graphics quality, has an excelent FFB, and its quite less demanding on hardware requirements...
I have triple 24'' screens, and although my CPU/RAM/VGA are still up to date, I've seen that on rFactor 2 my hardware is just not enough to use normal resolutions with medium graphic settings.
So, any particular reason not to consider Automobilista?


My PC can handle nicely Automobilista, and I think it's a great game. Unfortunately can't handle rFactor 2, it's like 3 or 4 fps so it's not a option for me. :unsure:

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6 months 2 weeks ago #5797 by Juan Manuel Feri
Juan Manuel Feri replied the topic: Round 5 - PUTNAM PARK
I was totally out of shape and my race ended before first corner.
I have lot of work these days and I am so tired... :(
I turned to the right to overtake Mini and crashed with Antonio.
This has resulted with puncture and end of the race.
Sorry Antonio,I hope next time will be better and with more space.

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6 months 2 weeks ago - 6 months 2 weeks ago #5798 by Paul Anstey
Paul Anstey replied the topic: Round 5 - PUTNAM PARK
Qualy : Had to break my PB to get the pole. Previous PB a 1:27.1 so well happy to break into the 1:26's just. Got pole from Matheus by 4/100th's of a second. Phew!

Race: Got a great start a didn't loose any crucial engine health which I find difficult with all of these cars. The one thing you can't feel with a pedal set is the clutch biting point which would allow for a measured getaway. By the time I got 100 metres down the road that good start was for nought. I had Jag's to the left of me, Jag's to the right of me and there I was stuck in the middle with them. Three Jag's in all past me before T1. By the time I ended the 1st lap I'd despatched all of them with the Mini's superior grip I could stay tight through the corners. I had to defend down the straight because Alan came up on me like a freight train. Hugged the inside and I think Alan may have slid off track. That gave me the gap I needed to get away from the next Jag (not sure who). By the end of lap 2 (I think) I had the tiny Mini of Matheus in my mirrors. I now had to keep pumping in fast qualy style laps to keep him there. By lap 8 the poor mini was gasping for air but it didn't seem to dent the performance. I starting to change up a little earlier and that helped down the straight. The last 5 laps were fairly intense after I'd made a hash up of T1. Was really side ways through it really not too sure how I got it back. This allowed Matheus to close. Again I had to find the low 1:27's to keep a gap. By the beginning of lap 29 I had to start defending the position but there was no way in hell I was going to crumble under the pressure. I figured that the entry into T1 and the sharp left hander half way around the lap were the only real opportunities to overtake so I went very defensive in these places. I kept him at bay but through the final turn on the last lap my exit speed for some reason was pretty slow and this allowed Alan get alongside. Thankfully the finish line was close and I won by 1/10th of a second. A few more metres and Alan would have got it. Phew! I was literally trembling at the end there.

Sorry that the cars weren't better matched for pace. In testing I got pretty close in lap times but I think the mini was easy to drive. I found maintaining a good lap time in the Jag more difficult. That said the 900cc mini was a lot slower so there wasn't another choice.

Well done to Matheus and Marek for your podium finishes :)
Well done to everyone else :)

On to Mosport and the muscle cars. Not my favourite cars but good fun none the less. See you all there :)
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6 months 2 weeks ago #5799 by Matheus Nolli
Matheus Nolli replied the topic: Round 5 - PUTNAM PARK
Good race, here. One to show how consistency and good starts are important.

I was very curious to see what car you guys would bet on, since both were very different: I was much faster with the Mini, so I it was only logical for me to drive it. Plus, I believe that, if someone could get the Jag to be as fast (I couldn't), the car differences would help create good overtake oportunities.

I was very confident on my FWD performance, and I was very surprised to see Paul do everything a little bit better in qualifying and put his Mini ahead of mine. No regrets, though: I reached my best.

My start was awful! I joined the grid with a terrible mindset for a race, believing the sea of Jags behind would be so fast off the line that my start performance would be irrelevant. They were, indeed, very fast, but the chaos that formed between Paul and me, at that moment, built a gap that would dictate the rest of my race.

I didn't practice full races. I didn't practice much, actually, and I was lucky that we had three weeks to do it, this time. I was aware that engine temperatures would rise a lot in the first 10 laps, and I suspected the front tires would also overheat and lose grip in the end of the race, but I had a gap to attack and Paul didn't seem to care about those problems. From my perspective, he looked like a locomotive: consistent car behaviour, consistent line and lap times. I wouldn't catch up by driving safe. I needed to push.

Lap times were showing that catching up was possible. Paul answered with an increase in pace, but I guess that was due to tires warming up, since my own pace would follow to get a little better. This was before the first ten laps, when all I wanted was to reach draft zone, so that I could ease on my engine for a few laps and postpone my overtake to when it was in pristine condition. That was a beatiful plan.

The gap eventually went under 1s. I could smell draft a few meters away (despite not even knowing if there would be draft effects at all). Then I touch the grass with my rear outer tire and turn a whole mid speed corner into wasted energy, adding another second to that gap. I needed to drive safer, to stay on the track, but I couldn't afford to do so if I wanted a shot on getting to first place.

The race was tougher, now. Oil temperatures were over 140°C and water wasn't far behind. Paul's pace was brutal. Conditions didn't change much until the last 8 laps. Never losing sight of Paul, I counted one noticeable mistake from him, so far, while I had another slide in the low speed left hairpin.

Something weird happened: Paul waved his car at the main straight! I noticed my corner entry was getting faster than his a few laps before, and also noticed his mid corner speed would rise up over mine and compensate. I couldn't replicate his behaviour and I believe he woundn't be as fast if he was replicating mine. Could this be setups coming to play as tires wear down? That's what I believe, right now. Anyway, what mattered was that I felt faster when my Mini's front was loaded, and that meant I could overtake under breaking, if I ever get the opportunity.

From that moment on, Paul's Mini was getting more and more twitchy in the corners, as (I believe) he fought the increasing understeer, and I managed to catch up with three or four laps to go. My first attempt to pass left my car inside at the right hand corner that leads to the slow left hairpin. There was no chance to complete the overtake there and he knew it. We both lost some time in that corner, but the gap was still very small. We opened the last lap (I was aware of it, this time) very close, as he blocked my first attempt to upset him in turn one. The last shot was at the same right hander as before: he blocked perfectly, slowing me down still in the corner entry and putting my car right behind his, in the apex, with no chance to accelerate either left or right (in my replay, my front bumper gets right between his rear bumper and his exhaust).

The responsible overtake opportunity was over, but the race was not. Counting on his defensive line in the penultimate corner, I would launch an attack on the last one. The entry line was already inside, so my advantage under deceleration wouldn't be there. All I had left was luck. I guess we touched very lightly, there, as he followed the fast exit line and I tried closing in to put my car beside his. His car crossed the line with less than a "Mini" distance between us.

There goes my chance on the championship, but the races, this season, are awesome! (Except for he second one, when I crashed all by myself in the dumbest way possible)

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6 months 2 weeks ago - 6 months 2 weeks ago #5802 by Paul Anstey
Paul Anstey replied the topic: Round 5 - PUTNAM PARK

Matheus Nolli wrote: Something weird happened: Paul waved his car at the main straight!


Mucking around with the HUD. Don't know how the F1 guys do it. Twiddling with their knobs whilst keeping the car in a straight line :)

Matheus Nolli wrote: From that moment on, Paul's Mini was getting more and more twitchy in the corners, as (I believe) he fought the increasing understeer

No problems with understeer. I lost concentration and began second guessing my corner entries. That meant I either turned in too early or too late and had to correct accordingly. Didn't notice any problems with understeer. Think after this period of about 3 or 4 laps I went back into the low 1:27's. Not sure I'd have to see the replay. Certainly lost a lot of time though.

My technic through the corners was to use lift off over steer. This is a great when driving FWD in particular. This cuts down the understeer and allows a tighter line through the corner. It may cut the entry speed into the corner but once the back end swings around you can get back on the power possibly earlier.

I'll put my setup on here later. Don't mind sharing setups even with my closest championship rivals. All you have to do is ask, anything to promote close racing. I love mucking around with setups but don't really have a clue what I'm doing but when they work they work. I've learned a fair amount from time trials which I love to do but seem to be unpopular with most. That said there's nothing that comes close to the buzz of close racing. :)
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